tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5780930.post1111856934465665526..comments2024-01-04T07:43:22.391-05:00Comments on Laughing at the Pieces: Why I’ve Been in a Bad Mood All DayRob S.http://www.blogger.com/profile/07331286524477806963noreply@blogger.comBlogger5125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5780930.post-17541015287128257782006-11-22T16:49:00.000-05:002006-11-22T16:49:00.000-05:00Thanks, Jen. It took me a little while, but I came...Thanks, Jen. It took me a little while, but I came to that same conclusion.Rob S.https://www.blogger.com/profile/07331286524477806963noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5780930.post-71231772186007123792006-11-22T14:10:00.000-05:002006-11-22T14:10:00.000-05:00assuming everything in VSG's blog is true (and the...assuming everything in VSG's blog is true (and there's no reason not to), then clearly the industry needs more guys like you in it to fix it! <br /><br />don't abandon your dream. make it come true.InGenius Festival - Voices from the Writers' Forumhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17733606412122690814noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5780930.post-6396367102162012782006-11-21T14:56:00.000-05:002006-11-21T14:56:00.000-05:00Yes, it's a very important distinction to make. De...Yes, it's a <i>very</i> important distinction to make. Depiction is not endorsement. I don't make that assertion in particular defense of anyone, but as a defense against other sweeping assertions and judgements that seem inclined towards condeming the fact of depiction because of some perceived or presumed intention.<br /><br />I haven't had time to read through VGS's whole tale yet, so I can't comment further. I do intend to read the whole thing, though, so comment may be forthcoming...Greg!https://www.blogger.com/profile/18212939468839687765noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5780930.post-27251738010482790122006-11-21T11:09:00.000-05:002006-11-21T11:09:00.000-05:00Thanks for commenting, Vivian.
I’m not being dis...Thanks for commenting, Vivian. <br /><br />I’m not being disingenuous when I say that. It’s just a different point of view.<br /><br />The rape of Sue Dibny hurt nobody. She’s fictional; it’s a fictional rape. Part of a story And I think the story itself was well-served by it, although the larger story of the DCU as a whole was probably not. It’s complicated.<br /><br />And the environment and the attitudes in the office may have—well, <I>have</I>—hurt the blog’s writer, Video Store Girl. But the incidents of <I>Identity Crisis</I>—the ones on the page, not behind the scenes—might be considered a symptom of those attitudes and that environment, but they in themselves are not a real rape, and they’re not what hurt VSG. It’s okay to be callous about Sue Dibny, same as it would be for Blue Beetle, Robin, or Bullwinkle. <br /><br />I don’t want to diminish what VSG experienced, but I think it’s wrong to lay any of the blame at the feet of Dr. Light. And treating the fictional events of that story as anything more than a symptom of the behind-the-scenes situation she was facing does that, I think.<br /><br />I don’t think we’re far apart on this. You write, “The brutality towards fictional women is the effect, not the cause.” I’m just saying it’s impossible for anyone at DC to be brutal to one of their characters. The most they can do is depict brutality. It may seem like a fine distinction, but I think it’s important one to make. <br /><br />Thank you again for writing.<br /><br />RobRob S.https://www.blogger.com/profile/07331286524477806963noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5780930.post-24514703092031473952006-11-21T10:45:00.000-05:002006-11-21T10:45:00.000-05:00pardon the random commenter--i've been looking for...pardon the random commenter--i've been looking for blogs that link to that story--but this: "But at the same time, no one real was harmed." strikes me as disingenuous. The entire POINT of her story was how an environment and attitudes like the one illustrated DO hurt real women. The way she was treated by these men *is directly connected* to the way they treat fictional women. Or rather, the way they treat fictional women is a reflection of their societally-ingrained misogyny. The brutality towards fictional women is the effect, not the cause; once you see it you know real misogyny is already there.lcsbananahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01264082183279860102noreply@blogger.com